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045843 · Installation Guide · Rev B · Sep 2021 · English, Spanish, French · PDF, 6 pages, 6.0 MB

Lutron Sivoia QS Roller 64 Installation Guide: WIDR Pocket Mount (045843, rev B)

Lutron's pocket mounting guide for the Roller 64 WIDR shade: fitting the pocket, setting the brackets and hanging the shade.

About document 045843

Lutron document 045843, Rev B of September 2021, is the Roller 64 WIDR pocket mount chassis guide: endcaps, pocket orientation, cable hole, pocket fastening, bracket positions, hanging, the light gap check and the optional flap.

What guide 045843 covers

Lutron document 045843 has these nine sections. Each link opens the PDF at that page in a new tab.

  1. Prepare to install: Lutron items and tools, opens in a new tab page 1
  2. Install the pocket, opens in a new tab page 1
  3. Mark the shade bracket locations, opens in a new tab page 1
  4. Install the shade brackets, opens in a new tab page 1
  5. Mount the shade, opens in a new tab page 2
  6. Check and secure the shade, opens in a new tab page 2
  7. Wiring and power-up, opens in a new tab page 2
  8. Install the optional pocket flap, opens in a new tab page 2
  9. Care and maintenance, opens in a new tab page 2

Specifications in 045843

Lutron document 045843 prints 38 values in the groups the document uses, each with the document's unit. The page link beside each group opens the PDF where the group starts.

Ambient operating temperature
32 °F to 104 °F (0 °C to 40 °C)
Humidity
0 to 90%, non-condensing
Use
Indoor only
Compatible parts
Lutron brackets, controls and power supplies only
Parts substitution
Non-WIDR Roller 64 parts must not be used in a Roller 64 WIDR installation
Mounting base
Blocking or other suitable structural material, pocket included
Load per shade bracket
250 lbs (113.4 kg)
Endcap fixing
2 tabs slid in until flush; friction fit, no fasteners
Orientation drawings
Regular roll and reverse roll, flap hanger and glass side marked

Pre-drill the pocket for cable entry

PDF page 1 of 045843, opens in a new tab
Cable entry side
Drive side, clear of shade operation
Hole size
Large enough to adjust the pocket without pinching the wire
Ceiling entry
1 1/2 in (38 mm) from pocket end; 1/2 in (13 mm) from rear wall
Rear wall entry
1 1/2 in (38 mm) from pocket end; 1/2 in (13 mm) from ceiling
Jamb entry
1 1/2 in (38 mm) from ceiling; 1/2 in (13 mm) from rear wall
Crew
2 people, one at each end; 2 ladders or lifts if out of reach from the floor
Pocket alignment
Level and untwisted, front and back walls plumb; shim an irregular surface
End gap between two jambs or walls
1/8 in (3 mm) each end, for thermal expansion
Fastener arrangement
In pairs through the pocket ceiling into a solid structural member; never a single row or zig-zag
Clearance at each pocket end and other bracket locations
3 in (76 mm) min.
Spacing of fastener pairs
Every 24 in (610 mm), 24 in (610 mm) max.
Fastener distance from front and rear walls
1 in (25 mm) max.

Mark the shade bracket locations

PDF page 1 of 045843, opens in a new tab
Bracket-to-bracket distance
Tube width + 1 1/2 in (38 mm)
Idler compression at the correct distance
About 50% of total travel
Bracket position
Centered on the aligning ribs of the pocket ceiling
Screws per shade bracket
4
Supplied screws
Self-drilling, through the bracket and pocket ceiling into solid wood structural members
Pilot holes
Pre-drill if needed, sized for the fasteners used
Drive control buttons
Facing downward, reached from below the pocket
Power and control cables
Through a notch facing the front (room side) or rear (window side)
Crew
2 people, one at each end; 2 ladders or lifts if out of reach from the floor
Retaining screw notch
Lower notch of the square mounting yoke
Idler-end light gap
3/4 in (19 mm) ± 1/8 in (3 mm), shade tube end to outer face of the idler bracket
Idler compression
50% of total travel
Retaining screws
Each end, hand screwdriver only; do not overtighten
Wiring and limits reference
Sivoia QS Basic Wiring and Setup, P/N 045520

Install the optional pocket flap

PDF page 2 of 045843, opens in a new tab
Flap mounting
Hung on the flap hanger, clear of the fabric
Upper limit
Bottom bar not drawn into the pocket; stays below the dotted line shown

Additional items you will need

PDF page 1 of 045843, opens in a new tab
Tools
Level; #2 Phillips screwdriver; 1/4 in (6 mm) hex-head driver, 6 in (152 mm) extension recommended; tape measure; power drill

Installation walk-through for 045843

Lutron document 045843 gives twelve steps, in the document's order, after the tools and fixings it lists.

The clearance, the check and the warning under a step are the document's own.

Tools

  • Level
  • #2 Phillips screwdriver
  • 1/4 in (6 mm) hex-head driver
  • 6 in (152 mm) driver extension, recommended
  • Tape measure
  • Power drill

Fixings

  • Self-drilling screws in the bracket kits, for solid wood structural members
  • Shade bracket: 4 screws
  • Bracket shims and a cable tie anchor (mounting bracket kit)
  • Pocket fasteners, installer-chosen for the surface and load, in pairs
  1. Prepare to install

    Read the important notes and both cautions. Check the Lutron items: the Roller 64 WIDR shade or shades, the pocket, and the optional endcaps and flap.

    Mounting bracket kits hold WIDR shade brackets, screws, shims and a cable tie anchor, sometimes packed inside a shade box. Gather the level, Phillips screwdriver, hex-head driver, tape measure and drill.

    Check: Only WIDR brackets and parts on site

    Warning: Do not substitute non-WIDR Roller 64 parts: Lutron states the result is unsafe

  2. Fit the pocket endcaps, if used

    Slide the two tabs of each endcap into the pocket until the endcap sits flush with the outside. Friction holds it, so no fasteners are needed.

    Check: Endcap flush with the pocket end

  3. Check the pocket orientation

    Compare the pocket with the section 2.2 drawings of a regular roll and a reverse roll shade. The drawings mark the flap hanger and the glass side.

    Turn the pocket to match the roll direction ordered.

    Check: Flap hanger on the side the drawing shows for the ordered roll

  4. Pre-drill the pocket for the cable

    Drill the cable hole on the drive side, clear of the bracket position and of the moving shade. Make the hole large enough that the pocket can still be adjusted without pinching the wire.

    Lutron suggests a ceiling, rear wall or jamb entry near the pocket end.

    Clearance: Ceiling or rear wall entry: 1 1/2 in (38 mm) from the pocket end, 1/2 in (13 mm) from rear wall or ceiling respectively. Jamb entry: 1 1/2 in (38 mm) from the ceiling, 1/2 in (13 mm) from the rear wall.

    Check: Hole on the drive side and clear of the bracket

  5. Mount the pocket

    With one person at each end, fasten the pocket through its ceiling into a solid structural member, in pairs only.

    Place a pair every 24 in (610 mm), each fastener within 1 in (25 mm) of the front or rear wall. Leave the pocket ends and any other bracket positions clear.

    Between two jambs or walls, leave an expansion gap at each end. Shim an uneven surface and keep checking the pocket is level, untwisted and plumb along its length.

    Clearance: Pairs at most 24 in (610 mm) apart and at most 1 in (25 mm) from the walls. At least 3 in (76 mm) clear at the ends, with a 1/8 in (3 mm) end gap between jambs.

    Check: Pocket ceiling level and walls plumb along the full length

    Warning: A single row or zig-zag of fasteners lets the pocket twist; without the end gap the pocket may buckle

  6. Mark the bracket locations

    Mark both bracket positions in the mounted pocket, centered over the window, at the bracket-to-bracket distance. Never take the positions from the pocket or the shade, whose idler spring compresses as it goes in.

    Leave room so the fabric cannot rub on trim, glass or a top treatment.

    Clearance: Bracket-to-bracket = tube width + 1 1/2 in (38 mm)

    Check: Marks centered over the window

    Warning: Do not use the pocket or the uninstalled shade to set the bracket positions

  7. Install the shade brackets

    Center each bracket on the aligning ribs of the pocket ceiling and fix it with four screws. The supplied self-drilling screws suit solid wood structure.

    For other substrates choose suitable fasteners and pre-drill pilot holes of the right size.

    Check: Four screws in each bracket

    Warning: The installer must confirm the surface and structure carry the shade and its 250 lbs (113.4 kg) operating load

  8. Set the drive buttons and cables

    At the drive end, turn the square mounting yoke so the control buttons face down, reachable from below the pocket. Run the power and control cables through a notch facing the room side or the window side.

    Check: Buttons pointing down

  9. Hang the shade

    With one person at each end, fit the idler-end yoke over the bracket tabs and behind the retaining screw head. The lower notch sits around the screw.

    Press the shade toward the idler bracket to compress the idler. Then fit the drive-end yoke over its tabs and behind its retaining screw head.

    Check: Cables still in the chosen notch and not pinched

    Warning: Two people are required, with 2 ladders or lifts where the brackets are out of reach. Both should review all steps first.

  10. Check and secure the shade

    Measure the idler-end light gap between the tube end and the outer face of the idler bracket. Move the brackets if it is out of tolerance.

    Confirm the shade is level and centered on the opening. Tighten the retaining screw at each end with a hand screwdriver.

    Clearance: Idler-end light gap 3/4 in (19 mm) ± 1/8 in (3 mm)

    Check: Shade level and centered; idler at about 50% compression

    Warning: Hand screwdriver only, and do not overtighten the retaining screws

  11. Wire the shade and set limits

    Wire the shade and set its limits with Lutron document 045520, Sivoia QS Basic Wiring and Setup, enclosed with it. Run the shade up and down several times and correct anything that interferes with it.

    Check: Full travel with nothing in the way

  12. Hang the optional pocket flap

    Hang the flap on the flap hanger. Confirm it does not touch the fabric or get in the way of the shade.

    On a tall shade with a large fabric roll, lower the shade first to make the flap easier to fit.

    Check: Flap clear of the fabric

    Warning: The upper limit must keep the bottom bar out of the pocket, below the dotted line in the drawing

Other warnings Lutron prints in 045843
  • Falling objects: ignoring the mounting steps risks minor to moderate injury
  • Do not substitute: non-WIDR Roller 64 parts in a WIDR installation are unsafe
  • Use only Lutron brackets, controls and power supplies
  • Install to all local and national electrical codes
  • Keep enough clearance between the moving shade and any object
  • Mount fixed controls, and keep remote controls, out of the reach of children
  • Do not run a shade that shows visible wear or damage

Count the pocket fastener pairs from 045843

Lutron document 045843 spaces the fastener pairs along the pocket: one at each end, at least 3 in (76 mm) in from the end. The rest sit at most 24 in (610 mm) apart.

Enter the pocket length to count the fastener pairs along the pocket.

From Lutron document 045843, page 1; confirm against the PDF before you drill.

Requirements Lutron states in 045843

What the guide requires for a Sivoia QS Roller 64 shade before and during installation:

Do not substitute parts
Non-WIDR Roller 64 parts may look like a fit, but Lutron states using them gives an unsafe condition
Bracket load
Each shade bracket supports 250 lbs (113.4 kg), on blocking or other structural material, with installer-chosen fasteners
Pocket fasteners
In pairs through the pocket ceiling, never a single row or zig-zag
  • A pair every 24 in (610 mm)
  • No more than 1 in (25 mm) from the front and rear walls
  • At least 3 in (76 mm) clear at each end and at bracket positions
Pocket end clearance
1/8 in (3 mm) at each end when the pocket sits between two jambs or walls, for thermal expansion
Pocket alignment
Level and untwisted, front and back walls plumb, shimmed on an irregular surface and rechecked along the full length
Pocket cable holes
On the drive side, one of three suggested entries
  • Ceiling: 1.5 in (38 mm) from pocket end, 0.5 in (13 mm) from rear wall
  • Rear wall: 1.5 in (38 mm) from pocket end, 0.5 in (13 mm) from ceiling
  • Jamb: 1.5 in (38 mm) from ceiling, 0.5 in (13 mm) from rear wall
Bracket-to-bracket distance
Tube width plus 1.5 in (38 mm), centered on the aligning ribs of the pocket ceiling
Shade bracket screws
4 self-drilling screws per bracket into solid wood, or suitable fasteners with pre-drilled pilot holes in other substrates
Idler light gap check
3/4 in (19 mm) plus or minus 1/8 in (3 mm), tube end to idler bracket outer face, about 50% idler compression
Button and cable orientation
Drive buttons face downward for access from below the pocket, cables leaving through the front or rear yoke notch
Two-person work
Mounting the pocket and hanging the shade each take 2 people, one at each end. Add 2 ladders or lifts where the brackets are out of reach from the floor.
Operating environment
32 °F to 104 °F (0 °C to 40 °C), 0 to 90% humidity non-condensing, indoor use only
Upper limit
Set so the bottom bar never rises into the pocket, staying below the line marked in the section 8 drawing
Pocket flap
Hangs on the flap hanger, never touching the fabric or hindering the shade. Lowering a tall shade with a large fabric roll makes it easier to fit.

Questions about document 045843

The answers come from Lutron document 045843 and New Way's record of it.

What is Lutron document 045843?

Lutron's 6-page Roller 64 WIDR pocket mount guide dated September 2021, with the English pages repeated in French and Spanish.

Which revision of 045843 is current?

Rev B, dated September 2021, is the revision Lutron publishes. New Way checked it against assets.lutron.com on 15 October 2026.

Which roller shades does 045843 cover?

Lutron Sivoia QS roller shades in the Roller 64 drive class. For related steps Lutron refers readers to document 045520.

How is the pocket fixed to the structure?

Lutron document 045843 fastens the pocket through its ceiling into solid structure, in pairs, never a single row or zig-zag.

  • A pair every 24 in (610 mm)
  • Each fastener within 1 in (25 mm) of the front or rear wall
  • At least 3 in (76 mm) clear of each end and the bracket positions

Can standard Roller 64 brackets be used in a WIDR pocket?

No. Lutron document 045843 warns that some non-WIDR Roller 64 parts appear to fit WIDR systems.

Lutron states that using them in a Roller 64 WIDR installation results in an unsafe condition.

Where are the cable holes drilled in the pocket?

Lutron document 045843 suggests three cable entries, all on the drive side.

  • Ceiling: 1.5 in (38 mm) from end, 0.5 in (13 mm) from rear wall
  • Rear wall: 1.5 in (38 mm) from end, 0.5 in (13 mm) from ceiling
  • Jamb: 1.5 in (38 mm) from ceiling, 0.5 in (13 mm) from rear wall

How do I confirm the shade is seated correctly in the pocket?

Lutron document 045843 has the installer measure the idler-end light gap, tube end to idler bracket outer face.

The gap should be 3/4 in (19 mm) plus or minus 1/8 in (3 mm), the idler compressed to 50% of its travel. Lutron has the bracket positions adjusted if the gap is out.

Can the drive buttons be reached inside the pocket?

Yes. Lutron document 045843 has the installer turn the square mounting yoke so the control buttons face downward.

The buttons can then be reached from below the pocket. Lutron routes the power and control cables through a notch facing the room side or the window side.

Ask about 045843

Other Sivoia QS Roller 64 installation guides

Installation guides for the same Sivoia QS Roller 64 drive class:

All 36 Sivoia QS installation guides

Documents used with 045843

Lutron documents 045929 and 045930 are the Roller 64 WIDR 4 in fascia guides, regular and reverse roll. Lutron document 045618 is the Roller 20/64 pocket mount guide, and 085668 the WIDR 4 in (103 mm) pocket section CAD drawing.

Revisions of 045843

This page always shows the revision Lutron publishes today. Lutron replaces the file in place and does not keep earlier revisions online.

RevisionDateStatus
BSep 2021Current. The file on assets.lutron.com. Checked 15 Oct 2026.

Not covered in 045843, and what to read next

Lutron document 045843 covers the pocket and the mechanical mounting of the shade only, without wiring or limit setting.

  • Wiring and limits: 045520, the Sivoia QS basic wiring and setup guide
  • Standard brackets: 045937, the Roller 64 WIDR single and dual mount guide

Publisher and citation for document 045843

Lutron Electronics Co., Inc. publishes document 045843, Rev B, and serves it from assets.lutron.com. New Way hosts no copy and last checked the file there on 15 October 2026.

Lutron and Sivoia QS are trademarks of Lutron Electronics Co., Inc.

Reviewed by Edmond Hong, Technical Specialist, New Way.

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